July 28, 2026

404: The Pain They Said You'd Have Forever… Gone.

404: The Pain They Said You'd Have Forever… Gone.
404: The Pain They Said You'd Have Forever… Gone.
POWER ON PLANTS
404: The Pain They Said You'd Have Forever… Gone.

You've been told the aches are just part of getting older: your genetics, your season of life, something you'll have to "manage" forever. But in this episode, Jarrod and Anita share real stories from the Christian women and business owners they work with, stories that will make you rethink everything you've accepted about pain and inflammation, including conditions many are told they'll have for life. If you think relief requires another prescription or complicated protocol, hold...

You've been told the aches are just part of getting older: your genetics, your season of life, something you'll have to "manage" forever.

But in this episode, Jarrod and Anita share real stories from the Christian women and business owners they work with, stories that will make you rethink everything you've accepted about pain and inflammation, including conditions many are told they'll have for life.

If you think relief requires another prescription or complicated protocol, hold on. What actually makes the difference is simple, fits right into real life, and is more delicious than you'd ever think.

"You'll just have to live with it" was never God's plan for your body.

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Jarrod

finally, after four years from the very start of this story, she went 100% in with us And did wonderfully. After seven days, her knee pain was gone. And what that tells me, think about it, four years, that's the length of time it takes to get a bachelor's degree in college. During that entire time, she was only seven days away from that knee pain being gone.

Anita

If you're considering going whole food plant-based to optimize your health, or you've already started this amazing journey and you just love hearing testimonials, you are going to be so thankful you joined us for this episode. I never get tired of hearing all the testimonials that come in from our clients, and Jarrod, even from his private patients that he sees, and he's gonna share a testimonial with you today that is so much fun. I said, "You have to share this. It's just too good to keep it to ourselves." This never gets old

Jarrod

Well, it was really an unintentional testimonial. So being the detail-oriented person that I am, I'm going to lead up to the story, but, story's in the details, but I'm not gonna go too deep. I promise. So I have a patient that I saw recently who came to see me on our-- the platform where I see patients, and he's had a history of migraine headaches. Now, he's never used any kind of prescription medication. He's only used things like Excedrin and Goody powders. So I said, "Well, there are options. A popular one is Imitrex." So I said, "Let's try that But being the provider that I am in lifestyle medicine, I said, "But you know, there's also something that's been found naturally that can help and has even been studied and compared to Imitrex and found to be equally effective, and that is ginger

Anita

Okay, just get that. We're just talking about one whole plant food, just one. And it can be equally as effective as Imitrex for treating migraines

Jarrod

Imitrex is the gold standard for that type of medication. It was the first one that came out, but it was very effective, so all the subsequent medications in that same class are measured to Imitrex. Well, they did the same thing with ginger. Ginger tea was found to be as effective. They didn't know the exact molecule, but they do suspect that it's got the same mechanism of action. So it's probably

Anita

I suspect that it's a lot of different molecules that are acting together in that ginger

Jarrod

But it's probably part of that 1.2 million that we have yet to fully isolate or characterize

Anita

And don't you think it's kind of funny too that we think it's just one molecule? They don't know which one it is yet, and God put all these things in there, and they work in synergy. so they're busy in the labs trying to pull out that one thing, discover what it is so we can put it in a pill. Meanwhile, you could eat something delicious that costs you pennies on the dollar. you don't even have to have insurance to cover it, and that's just one food. And with all these things working in synergy inside it, imagine what would happen if you now start to stack food after food after food, and they're all delicious, and they're all inexpensive. Yes, we laid poverty mentality to rest in the last episode. Don't miss it. Go back and listen to that one as well. But all these wonderful foods that can change your life, and with this testimonial, it's this one food. Really, there were two foods that Jarrod's gonna share with you about. But you have to think

Jarrod

away my

Anita

I am giving away your story I'm sorry, it's so good. Okay, go ahead

Jarrod

But you know, you're so right about them wanting to isolate it down to one molecule, and I think that is mainly because they wanna extract it and put it in a pill, and it's likely multiple things working together. But at the end of the day, my thought is, if I don't know the exact mechanism, does it really matter if it works? I trust God. God's the author of everything. If he put this wonderful property in ginger, and if I have a headache, thank the Lord I don't have migraines, and any time I've ever had them in the past, it was because I didn't get enough sleep, my fault. But if it works, does it really matter? I would say no. But the molecular biologist in me does enjoy knowing what is the mechanism? Have we isolated it down to the exact molecule? I do enjoy that.

Anita

You know what I enjoy? The simplicity of going to the store and putting some ginger in my cart, checking it out, bringing it home with all my other groceries, and then grating it into a tea, which is absolutely delicious. I made that for a new friend of mine this week, and she was freaking out. She's like, This is the most delicious thing." And you know what? I didn't even strain it or anything. I grated the root straight into the glass, added some honey, some fresh lemon and water, and boom, it was done. And she said, "This is amazing. This is so good. Like, I could drink this every day." Well, what if she did? What would change with her health? I mean, it's so exciting

Jarrod

she have any side effects? Yeah. A happy tongue.

Anita

Good, right? A happy tongue. And she felt better, and it gave her more energy. So the thing is, like, it's just so simple. Man-made ways are complicated. You gotta get in the lab, you gotta extract that thing, and now it's extracted from all the things it was created to work in synergy with, and so you're not gonna get the same results. And that's even the best way they do it. Usually, they don't even extract it. They're making a man-made form of that thing, and now you're eating something that's synthetic. there's no way it's gonna work the same way.

Jarrod

So getting back to the patient. No, this was a

Anita

So getting back to the I know it's hard. It's so

Jarrod

is a great aside. I mean, it's great information, but I saw the patient a couple weeks later a second time, and he was telling me that, "Hey, the medication actually has been very helpful." So I said, "Great. Well, let's do a refill for you." And so as I was doing that, he was asking me a separate question. He said, "Hey, doc, I got a, another question for you here. You know, I've been having this, like, hip and back pain." I thought maybe he was wanting another diagnosis. And having been in orthopedic spine surgery for 10 years, when I hear somebody say back pain, of course, I'm starting to go back to that training. And so he was explaining it to me, and it... to me, it really sounded like it was bursitis, like trochanteric or hip bursitis that occurs on the side. And so I said, "Yeah, that sounds like bursitis." He said, "Well, you know, I, I don't need anything for it, but, I like eating onions. I like just eating raw onions," which I, I can't say I've ever just bitten into a raw onion myself. I love it on stuff like salad or when we make our veggie chilis. It's fantastic.

Anita

good. Sandwiches,

Jarrod

into half a raw onion, I've not done that. But he enjoys it, so hey, like, go for it. But he said, "A couple nights ago, I ate half a raw onion, and when I woke up the next morning, my hip and back pain was gone." And he just paused,

Anita

I wanna pause right there. I mean, that just makes me wanna do a happy dance. When we hear these kind of testimonials, it's so much fun. I mean, think about it for a minute. he's come to you for headaches. You've been talking to him about whole plant foods and introducing that, and now he, in his own mind, is starting to figure out, Hey, if I eat more whole plant foods that I enjoy, like onion"-

Jarrod

Well, I think by the end of the, the discussion,

Anita

He was thinking more of that. Yeah, it's crazy good

Jarrod

he paused and then he said, "Do you think the onion could have done that?" well, yeah, it could have. I mean, it took me a little bit by surprise 'cause my, my mind was diagnosing something different than the condition for which I was prescribing the medication. And I said, "Well, sure, it could." And then he admitted to me, he said, "Oh, and I've been doing ginger tea every day since I last saw you two weeks ago." I said, "Well, absolutely that could have done it, because now you've been eating a very potent anti-inflammatory food or drinking the tea for a couple weeks now, and then you eat the onion on top of that?" I said, "Absolutely." And I joked with him. I said, "When you woke up that morning, did you think maybe you died and gone to heaven?"

Anita

That's how you feel when you s- when symptoms drop off, yeah.

Jarrod

where's my back pain? Jesus, are you here with me? Am I in heaven now?' He kind of chuckled and all, but it really highlights the power of this, and it was an unintended testimonial. We ended up with a benefit we weren't even looking to treat, but it speaks to the power of plants and how they address inflammation, and how inflammation is a root of so many different diseases and chronic problems in our body

Anita

And I just think about he did stack two things there. He added the ginger, which probably also helped with his headaches, and it helped with the inflammation he was having in his hip as well. And then he threw the onion on top of it and boom, next day, the hip pain's gone. And it reminds me of this client of ours, and we've talked about her before, but if you haven't listened to all 400 episodes or it's been a while, you have to hear this testimonial we have this client,

Jarrod

name's Amanda, and she's

Anita

she's amazing. We have loved working with her

Jarrod

But she, at the time of this testimonial, was in her mid-30s, and she had reported to us that for a few years she'd been having knee pain, and she loved to jog. She loved that form of exercise. But her knee started bothering her, became a chronic daily thing. It would get worse when she would jog. So she stated that she went to go see the doctor, and of course, what did they tell her? "You've got arthritis." No 30-year-old, mid 30-year-old wants to hear, "You've got arthritis." Well, nobody wants to hear, but certainly not in your mid-30s.

Anita

And certainly not if you left to run

Jarrod

and so they gave her a prescription for anti-inflammatories. So this went on for a few years, and then she finally learned of plant-based, and I think, you know, she dabbled a little bit, didn't quite get the results, and then decided finally, after four years from the very start of this story, she went 100% in with us And did wonderfully. After seven days, her knee pain was gone. And what that tells me, think about it, four years, that's the length of time it takes to get a bachelor's degree in college. During that entire time, she was only seven days away from that knee pain being gone. And she reports that at one of her children's school around a stadium, there were some bleachers. She said, "Not only was I walking pain-free, I was climbing up and down the bleachers with no pain." She loved to walk around the neighborhood with her children, but before she could only make it part way. They would have to go back to the home, get their golf cart to be able to then continue around the neighborhood and ride and see people like they enjoyed doing. Now, she's not limited anymore. Her knee pain is gone

Anita

But just those few days away and for years was told, from the white coat, "This is just how it is. This is just how it's gonna be."

Jarrod

It's like Brenda. She had severe neck pain. She rated it an 8.5 out of 10. She went all in. Three days later, 0.5 out of 10. I'm not sure how you're a 0.5 out of 10 in neck pain, but I guess it was just a little ache there, maybe a slight remnant, but still, three days, almost zero? Yeah, sign me up for that. I've never seen a medication that does that I- it's astounding. So we love seeing these and hearing these testimonials, but we wanted to share this with you just to encourage you that if you're suffering from an ache or pain anywhere, give it a try.

Anita

And even if it's been going on for a long time and you've been specifically told you're gonna have this forever. Can I tell you how many things I've been told I'd have forever? I can tell you some just quickly. Fibrocystic breast disease.

Jarrod

Oh, and that's just normal

Anita

just a normal variant. Some people just have this. It's just genetic. Well, I can tell you what it just is now that I eat whole plant foods, it's just gone. Just gone. It is no longer there. Where'd it go? How'd it go? How is... And so I was told that I would have it forever, and now it's gone. Okay, can I tell you how many times Jarrod and I have experienced this, not only in our own bodies, but with our clients? A lot. It is the regular occurrence. It is not the outlier

Jarrod

The patient that I first mentioned in this episode, he's 62 years old. So with this hip pain, it's the kind of hip pain that a lot of quote unquote older people just have, and they don't really expect it to go away. And now he can spend the rest of his life without that pain. And I think if he adopts more and more, and I did share with him about plant-based in more detail, and he seemed very interested with this slight little improvement he's noticed, very interested in digging deeper into it and adapting more of it into his life

Anita

So no matter what you're going through today, and no matter what somebody has pronounced over you, be encouraged. Be encouraged. know that you don't have to necessarily have something forever. One plant food, another plant food, and finding the way to do it that's enjoyable for you. Finding the way to make it stick. We work with so many people who've, I've tried plant-based before. I felt better than I ever have felt when I ate that way." Then my question is always, "Why didn't you stick with it?" Well, I didn't find it as enjoyable," or, "I miss this thing," or, "I miss that thing." And that is my specialty, showing you how to make it work in all the situations, showing you how to love it so much you never dream of going back, showing you the specific substitutions, taking you in the kitchen with us, showing you exactly how to make it step by step in a way it works with your busy schedule

Jarrod

And that's that pivotal moment that leads to your success. It's kind of

Anita

it stick

Jarrod

it's like Tony Robbins talks about profound knowledge, and it's something that's not necessarily extremely complex in nature, but it's this pivotal mindset shift that leads to that success that's been eluding you for so long

Anita

Right, because I think about all the people, and even myself at first, where you think, Oh, I know these foods are great, and I know they're super healthy, and I've known it for a long time." But I can't imagine if I like taco pizza burgers, all the cheesy things that I used to eat on the regular. Milkshakes and ice cream, all my brownies, and all the things. We still eat

Jarrod

we got all those

Anita

Lasagna and

Jarrod

They're in our

Anita

pie and, yeah, mashed potatoes and loaded baked potatoes and chicken, fried chicken. We now call it chickun. Like, it's not chicken, it's

Jarrod

There's no E in our chicken.

Anita

chicken. But it's funny. I mean, you can laugh about those things and have fun because this way of eating is fun, and it tastes just as good. It's not gonna taste weird. You might be like my sister-in-law, who used to say to me, "Anita, I hate tofu. I would never eat it with a 10-foot pole. Tofu scramble's disgusting." "Well, have you tried mine?" "No, I haven't." "Please try it and then report back." g- And then she comes back, Oh, my goodness. Where has this been my entire life?" And it's like Jarrod always says, you can't put a little orange or a little yellow on some tofu and expect it to taste like eggs. You have to get the flavors in there. You have to know how to make it where it actually tastes good, where it's something you're gonna wanna eat, not have to force yourself to eat. Otherwise, that's diet mentality. You're doing the same things over and over again that you've been told you have to do. Meanwhile, you're struggling to survive at work. You have all these dreams and these goals and these plans God's put on your heart, and you think, "If I could just feel good, I could get all these things done and my life would be fulfilled." You wanna run and play with your kids when you get home. You wanna be able to still go out with friends 'cause you feel amazing and not just crash into your bed and get up in the morning and do it all over again. That should not be your story, and it doesn't have to be.

Jarrod

And these are all very reasonable desires. You're not selfish for wanting to be able to play with your kids at the end of the day or go spend time with friends or go do that missions trip with your church group.

Anita

And to get to travel and not have to see everything from the car when you go on trips, or have to sit over in the corner while everybody else pitches in and does the work 'cause your back's acting up. It just shouldn't be that way, and it doesn't have to be. There is a better way. Jarrod and I have done all the hard work, all the hard research. If I could tell you how much time we have put into making this so simple, step by step by step for you, so that it is not hard, it is enjoyable, and it just naturally weaves into your day, and you can get set free. Think about this story. Two foods. Two foods. What if you learned to absolutely love ginger and onion? Not just eat it 'cause you feel like I have to have it to feel good, but actually enjoyed the things you put it in. What if you learned 50 different ways to use each of those things, and then you stacked 100 million different plants on top of that that you can use 50 different ways? It's like John says... We love John. Everybody needs to meet John. John's awesome. He is a client of ours. John, I know you're listening. We love you so much. He says, my goal is to live long enough now, because whole plant foods make me feel amazing, that I can actually have time to eat all these things that I wanna try." See, you think it's gonna be limiting. You have poverty mentality. We talked about that on the last episode. Go back and listen to that. You gotta break the poverty mentality off

Jarrod

John's gonna have to live another 100, 200 years to even scratch the surface of all the plant foods that are

Anita

Oh, 100%. But it's so exciting to have this growing list of things you want to try. You actually are looking forward to it because you've already found some favorites and you know how incredible it can be, and I show you how to set yourself up to do that once you're accepted into the accelerator experience

Jarrod

Accelerator was designed for simplicity and results. It's not hard, but does it work? Oh, man, it works

Anita

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